tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2249983551893842827.post305886851203401724..comments2023-10-26T23:39:36.158+01:00Comments on Climate and Stuff: Nikolov & Zeller posts on Tallbloke. and censorship. updatedthefordprefecthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07210786222021457913noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2249983551893842827.post-61940507401650973532012-03-08T04:23:22.308+00:002012-03-08T04:23:22.308+00:00NZ also seem to have ignored back radiation, there...NZ also seem to have ignored back radiation, there are a couple of documents I found that show these measurements. It seems that the downward LWIR does not change much between day and night. This needs to be averaged round the globe but is certainly not simply spreading only the daytime IR as nz do.<br /><br />http://www.patarnott.com/atms749/pdf/LongWaveIrradianceMeas.pdf<br /> http://www.slf.ch/ueber/mitarbeiter/homepages/marty/publications/Marty2003_IPASRCII_JGR.pdf<br /> <br />From the first document is this measurement made over a few days:<br /> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9s3NXvQOhqo/TxMcOkS_Y9I/AAAAAAAAAOQ/5uDyaSI0_Ek/s1600/lw+downward+ir.jpg<br /> <br />The radiation on occasion is the same day and night!thefordprefecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07210786222021457913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2249983551893842827.post-70526788090051686652012-03-07T22:24:22.739+00:002012-03-07T22:24:22.739+00:00I am preparing an answer on the NZ theory, especia...I am preparing an answer on the NZ theory, especially on the subject of rotation of an airless planet. There they made some elementary mistakes. They modeled a nonrotating case and claimed rotation made no difference and called the remark of A.Smith(2008) a fallacy but I found with ease that Smith was right. The basic findings are at almost(!) zero rotation Tm=0,5Te<br />and at infinite rotation Tm=Te, the temperatures are converging(A.Smith 2008).<br />When I used the NZ methodology I found Tm>Te which is not possible so I knew somewhere there is a mistake and I traced an elementary one. <br />For a nonratotating case the solar flux(1362) and the deepspace flux(0) are added and divided by 2. The rotation case the fluxes are added only because this is a single process.<br />I want to post the entire report on WUWT and Tallbloke but until now no answer.JJM Gommersnoreply@blogger.com